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What do you guys think of her?
I know everyone on tumblr thinks of her as a joke.
Some people like her but I wanted to know about you guys,not news reporters or strangers that don't care about dolls,ACTUAL fans of dolls.
What do YOU think about her? Will you be buying it?

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I forget to mention this on there but how do you guys think Mattel will respond?not just Mattel,all other doll companies?

I would buy one... if just one for the concept of them. I support the whole "show true body types" in media, toys and advertising. I'm just not sure if it is a thing that will last.

I will get one, or more, depending on price. I was lucky enough to grow up in a household where both my parents told me all my life "Women should look like women and not a stick figure."

Mattel already bent under the pressure of unrealistic body images for girls when they changed Barbie. But I don't think any other toy companies will care.

I also know this doll will not last long. But I'm gonna get it while the gettin's good :)

I am torn. I mean, in one way, I love when you get dolls with different body shapes but on the other, I think the fixation this doll has, the focus on the body shape a little troubling.

Most fashion dolls focus on the activities, the interests or the outfits a doll has, never mentioning the body while this one seems to be leaning more toward the "this is what you should look like" angle which feels hypocritical to me.

I get wanting a doll that represents an average shaped body, but that cannot and should not be the primary selling point because that's doing exactly the wrong thing. It's promoting a body shape to young girls. Fashion dolls have NEVER promoted body shape, that's not their point. This doll is ALL about the body shape and I find that very unsettling.

Now, with some decent fashions and a cute backstory, some interests etc she could be a nice little doll but as she is, her outfits are kinda bland and the way she's being promoted doesn't sit well with me. "average is beautiful" yeah? Well so are all those other body shapes! Don't you dare preach to me about what a healthy attractive body should look like!

grargh

And it's yet more of this ridiculous notion that children are in fact, brain dead morons unable to differentiate reality from fiction. I know of NO child and NO adult who wasn't suffering serious mental health issues who has looked at a barbie doll and thought "yes, that's the ideal I should aspire to, that's what a human body should look like". Just like we don't have kids thinking they should dye themselves green and lob their hands off to be like Frankie Stein! Children aren't dumb and children do not look to toys as idols. Toys are playthings, avatars for fantasy. The body shape issue isn't Barbie, it's magazines, it's tv, it's pop media.

Barbie has held down 130+ careers, she's been a doctor, an astronaut, a computer programmer! She can be anything she wants to be! That's the message Mattel have been driving at with that doll. Not "you should look like this" but "you can do whatever you want to do in life" which is a positive message! A good message!

Monster high has the message of tolerance and accepting that everyone is different, be yourself etc etc.

My concern is that in her current state, Lammily is telling kids "This is what you should be, be average, be just like me" and that... that's damaging.

Unbelieveable. I mean really, Mattel made this?! I expected MORE from them. Having a normal body shape other than most dolls is creative, but focusing on the body ONLY is the worst thing about it. "Average is beautiful," Really? That's teaching kids how NOT to be themselves and worry more about how they look. At least CHANGE the life message.

@Raggety Andrea Mattel did not create that doll.
She's just a 3D thing designed by some guy who knows nothing about Barbie except her body(he said if she was real she would be cold and rude,cause ya know good looking people CAN'T be nice.)
In other words,she's not their property.If she was shed have a much more interesting name and personality.

I think she is cute.  If I had money I would preorder one.  I wish she had other colors of hair and eyes.  It would be cute to turn her into a MH 

I hatehatehate the tagline. "Average is Beautiful"
Yes, "conformity is good." "Bland is superior."

No child should ever strive to be average. Every child should strive to be happy and individual. All this doll does is redefine normal in just a marginally larger box than the fantasy creation that is Barbie does.

And yet she has perfectly even features, a flat stomach, and she isn't 7 1/2 heads tall in ratio.

She's also not comprised of averages. I mean, sure, her height to theoretical weight is the middle of the spectrum but she's built in a way that is far from average for those height to weight ratios.

And Lamm is such a pretentious artist. Every time I see him in a video interview I grow to dislike him a little more.

Also I'm highly critical of the joint design of the dolls.

I mean, by putting disconnected joints at the wrists and feet, but covered joints for the elbow and knees, you're just asking for ripped vinyl with excessive play.

I feel like Lamm tried to do something good, and I commend him for that, but the doll is designed by someone who has no idea how to make a marketable toy, and wound up marginalizing the sort of people who would actually be interested in buying a Lammily.

Also, what kind of jerk names a girl doll after himself?

THANK. YOU.

Oh, btw, I'm one of those people on Tumblr making a big fuss about how much a joke she is. I happen to have a tumblr that occasionally has Monster High stuff on it, but usually is focused on my other interests, with the occasional binge-posting of doll stuff.

purple_monkfish said:

I am torn. I mean, in one way, I love when you get dolls with different body shapes but on the other, I think the fixation this doll has, the focus on the body shape a little troubling.

Most fashion dolls focus on the activities, the interests or the outfits a doll has, never mentioning the body while this one seems to be leaning more toward the "this is what you should look like" angle which feels hypocritical to me.

I get wanting a doll that represents an average shaped body, but that cannot and should not be the primary selling point because that's doing exactly the wrong thing. It's promoting a body shape to young girls. Fashion dolls have NEVER promoted body shape, that's not their point. This doll is ALL about the body shape and I find that very unsettling.

Now, with some decent fashions and a cute backstory, some interests etc she could be a nice little doll but as she is, her outfits are kinda bland and the way she's being promoted doesn't sit well with me. "average is beautiful" yeah? Well so are all those other body shapes! Don't you dare preach to me about what a healthy attractive body should look like!

grargh

And it's yet more of this ridiculous notion that children are in fact, brain dead morons unable to differentiate reality from fiction. I know of NO child and NO adult who wasn't suffering serious mental health issues who has looked at a barbie doll and thought "yes, that's the ideal I should aspire to, that's what a human body should look like". Just like we don't have kids thinking they should dye themselves green and lob their hands off to be like Frankie Stein! Children aren't dumb and children do not look to toys as idols. Toys are playthings, avatars for fantasy. The body shape issue isn't Barbie, it's magazines, it's tv, it's pop media.

Barbie has held down 130+ careers, she's been a doctor, an astronaut, a computer programmer! She can be anything she wants to be! That's the message Mattel have been driving at with that doll. Not "you should look like this" but "you can do whatever you want to do in life" which is a positive message! A good message!

Monster high has the message of tolerance and accepting that everyone is different, be yourself etc etc.

My concern is that in her current state, Lammily is telling kids "This is what you should be, be average, be just like me" and that... that's damaging.

The joints, you make a good point. The internal joints in the knee and elbows struck me as a strange and backward choice. Full articulation is kinda a must in dolls these days and internal joints never work as well as hinged or ball jointed ones. Torn knees are no fun at all.

I think more variation and variety would have made a cool doll line. You know what i'd do? Have like your standard 4 character lineup but give each one their own body and face mould. So have a short girl, a slightly chunkier than average girl, a tall lanky one and a generically average height/weight one. Give each a different hair colour/eye colour combo, make all of them "of uncertain ethnicity" (lol) so they cover just about every variation of person. I'd buy the hell out of an attractively made curvier bodied doll, or a doll who was pear shaped rather than the sort of ruler shape most fashion dolls tend toward.

Variety is the spice of life, which incidently is a far healthier tag line than "average is beautiful" lol.

Lamm has explicitly stated he won't be making a plus-sized doll because he feels it would promote obesity and wouldn't want him name connected with that sort of project.

Of course not, because being even slightly above average is "bad" according to him. *eyeroll*

How is this guy NOT promoting negative body image?

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