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So it seems Mattel have found themselves in a bit of legal trouble, as Mezco Toys is sueing them, claiming that Monster High is stealing an idea of theirs. http://www.law360.com/ip/articles/368979/mattel-hit-with-trademark-...

Who are Mezco Toys, you ask? Well they're the creator of Living Dead Dolls. You know, those creepy as hell baby dolls which seem to clutter up every Hot Topic and goth-style clothing store? Well it seems Living Dead Dolls has it's own subline of dolls based on fairy tales http://www.mezcotoyz.com/ldd-scary-tales-series-4 and they are accusing Mattel of stealing the idea for Monster High.


Seriously Mezco? The last time I checked, the concept of creepy, horror based versions of popular fairy tales isn't exactly an original idea. Several books, comics, cartoons and toys had been doing it long before your dolls were around. The lawsuit just sounds like an obvious desperate grab at Monster High's great success.

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*Applause here too* The two lines are VERY different. So you don't like LDDs? Your point shouldn't be "they're scary". Some people tend to LIKE scary, you know? 

In my opinion, LDDs aren't that bad. I'm only a bit weirded out by this: http://www.livingdeaddolls.com/archive/preview_merch.asp?main_id=ld... (huge link is huge :P)

Emily is a Pokemon Master. said:

*Applause*

Beathag Ford said:

The difference between the MH fandom and the Mezco fandom is maturity and money.

People who but Living Dead Dolls tend to buy hundreds. They sell for 100$ each and are worth the money; They very rarely have flaws, despite being mass produced and popular. They're not 'scalped' as much as raised in value, usually after the specific set is discontinued, and has continued with a lot of popularity for 13 years. There are less facemolds, but the molds are used well and most characters has something unique, such as The Vanishing Hitchhiker's hitchhiker's thumb, or Orchid (a hemophobic vampire) having veins underneath her clothing to show the stress of not being able to eat. Each series has a specific theme and is catered to that theme, including some series having pets, special wings, and other accessories. Their hair is good quality and always styled with little to no gel, and the boxes are good for displays without having to be taken apart. They're steamlined, including a chipboard poem and death certificate, but there's no flaws in them and they aren't flashy. The dolls are paced enough apart to be able to get all of them if you're watching as well. They stay true to the stories they're based on, in the few lines based on stories, because there are no restrictions.

Monster High is bought one or two at a time, and people with 70+ are looked at highly in the fandom, though the average is 30-40 because of the age they're aimed at. Because they're aimed at children, they also have less problem squishing up hair or having a few minor flaws, but the minor flaws extent to several hundred dolls. The quality has been lowered as the dolls became more popular, excluding stands from the current multipacks and cheaper lines. Though they have used a new sculpt for many characters, the designs tend to be fairly simple on the skin, because more complicated designs make it easier to mess up. They have stories, but some of the stories have flaws and it's hard to tell which to take most seriously, and there tend to be typos or flaws in the journal (notably, Venus's journal lists Rochelle's BFFs instead of hers). The stories tend to be twisted slightly to suit children, not mentioning the Phantom of the Opera being a deranged serial killer or Dr. Frankenstein being a grave thief, for example.

Altogether, each doll is suited for it's audience and you have no right to insult LDDs because you are biased towards a line with an opposite audience.

Plantasia said:

Omg. Mezco is being a b...h hello! Monster high is way better than living dead dolls. Those dolls are creepy as hell and I bet idiots buy that doll. Oh wait, they r smart enough to not buy them. Those Mezco people are whack.

*standing ovation*

This, this, this!  You've totally got it right!  I myself am not into LDD, but I certainly will not begrudge anyone who likes them.  You like what you like, and it's all good.

One property may be preferred by some to another, but by no means does it make that property "better" than the other.  It irks me to no end when someone is so blinded by their bias for one product that they mindlessly bash all competing products just because it's not that one product that they love.

Beathag Ford said:

The difference between the MH fandom and the Mezco fandom is the audience.

People who but Living Dead Dolls tend to buy hundreds. They sell for 100$ each and are worth the money; They very rarely have flaws, despite being mass produced and popular. They're not 'scalped' as much as raised in value, usually after the specific set is discontinued, and has continued with a lot of popularity for 13 years. There are less facemolds, but the molds are used well and most characters has something unique, such as The Vanishing Hitchhiker's hitchhiker's thumb, or Orchid (a hemophobic vampire) having veins underneath her clothing to show the stress of not being able to eat. Each series has a specific theme and is catered to that theme, including some series having pets, special wings, and other accessories. Their hair is good quality and always styled with little to no gel, and the boxes are good for displays without having to be taken apart. They're steamlined, including a chipboard poem and death certificate, but there's no flaws in them and they aren't flashy. The dolls are paced enough apart to be able to get all of them if you're watching as well. They stay true to the stories they're based on, in the few lines based on stories, because there are no restrictions.

Monster High is bought one or two at a time, and people with 70+ are looked at highly in the fandom, though the average is 30-40 because of the age they're aimed at. Because they're aimed at children, they also have less problem squishing up hair or having a few minor flaws, but the minor flaws extent to several hundred dolls. The quality has been lowered as the dolls became more popular, excluding stands from the current multipacks and cheaper lines. Though they have used a new sculpt for many characters, the designs tend to be fairly simple on the skin, because more complicated designs make it easier to mess up. They have stories, but some of the stories have flaws and it's hard to tell which to take most seriously, and there tend to be typos or flaws in the journal (notably, Venus's journal lists Rochelle's BFFs instead of hers). The stories tend to be twisted slightly to suit children, not mentioning the Phantom of the Opera being a deranged serial killer or Dr. Frankenstein being a grave thief, for example.

Altogether, each doll is suited for it's audience and you have no right to insult LDDs because you are biased towards a line with an opposite audience.



Plantasia said:

Omg. Mezco is being a b...h hello! Monster high is way better than living dead dolls. Those dolls are creepy as hell and I bet idiots buy that doll. Oh wait, they r smart enough to not buy them. Those Mezco people are whack.

Why the heck aren't we friends yet? We seem to agree all the time lately! *Friends request*

Faye Verdante said:

*standing ovation*

This, this, this!  You've totally got it right!  I myself am not into LDD, but I certainly will not begrudge anyone who likes them.  You like what you like, and it's all good.

One property may be preferred by some to another, but by no means does it make that property "better" than the other.  It irks me to no end when someone is so blinded by their bias for one product that they mindlessly bash all competing products just because it's not that one product that they love.

Beathag Ford said:

The difference between the MH fandom and the Mezco fandom is the audience.

People who but Living Dead Dolls tend to buy hundreds. They sell for 100$ each and are worth the money; They very rarely have flaws, despite being mass produced and popular. They're not 'scalped' as much as raised in value, usually after the specific set is discontinued, and has continued with a lot of popularity for 13 years. There are less facemolds, but the molds are used well and most characters has something unique, such as The Vanishing Hitchhiker's hitchhiker's thumb, or Orchid (a hemophobic vampire) having veins underneath her clothing to show the stress of not being able to eat. Each series has a specific theme and is catered to that theme, including some series having pets, special wings, and other accessories. Their hair is good quality and always styled with little to no gel, and the boxes are good for displays without having to be taken apart. They're steamlined, including a chipboard poem and death certificate, but there's no flaws in them and they aren't flashy. The dolls are paced enough apart to be able to get all of them if you're watching as well. They stay true to the stories they're based on, in the few lines based on stories, because there are no restrictions.

Monster High is bought one or two at a time, and people with 70+ are looked at highly in the fandom, though the average is 30-40 because of the age they're aimed at. Because they're aimed at children, they also have less problem squishing up hair or having a few minor flaws, but the minor flaws extent to several hundred dolls. The quality has been lowered as the dolls became more popular, excluding stands from the current multipacks and cheaper lines. Though they have used a new sculpt for many characters, the designs tend to be fairly simple on the skin, because more complicated designs make it easier to mess up. They have stories, but some of the stories have flaws and it's hard to tell which to take most seriously, and there tend to be typos or flaws in the journal (notably, Venus's journal lists Rochelle's BFFs instead of hers). The stories tend to be twisted slightly to suit children, not mentioning the Phantom of the Opera being a deranged serial killer or Dr. Frankenstein being a grave thief, for example.

Altogether, each doll is suited for it's audience and you have no right to insult LDDs because you are biased towards a line with an opposite audience.



Plantasia said:

Omg. Mezco is being a b...h hello! Monster high is way better than living dead dolls. Those dolls are creepy as hell and I bet idiots buy that doll. Oh wait, they r smart enough to not buy them. Those Mezco people are whack.

*approved*

Victoria Niccals said:

Why the heck aren't we friends yet? We seem to agree all the time lately! *Friends request*


*Nods head in agreement* 

You guys said it perfectly. I totally agree. 


Faye Verdante said:

*standing ovation*

This, this, this!  You've totally got it right!  I myself am not into LDD, but I certainly will not begrudge anyone who likes them.  You like what you like, and it's all good.

One property may be preferred by some to another, but by no means does it make that property "better" than the other.  It irks me to no end when someone is so blinded by their bias for one product that they mindlessly bash all competing products just because it's not that one product that they love.

Beathag Ford said:

The difference between the MH fandom and the Mezco fandom is the audience.

People who but Living Dead Dolls tend to buy hundreds. They sell for 100$ each and are worth the money; They very rarely have flaws, despite being mass produced and popular. They're not 'scalped' as much as raised in value, usually after the specific set is discontinued, and has continued with a lot of popularity for 13 years. There are less facemolds, but the molds are used well and most characters has something unique, such as The Vanishing Hitchhiker's hitchhiker's thumb, or Orchid (a hemophobic vampire) having veins underneath her clothing to show the stress of not being able to eat. Each series has a specific theme and is catered to that theme, including some series having pets, special wings, and other accessories. Their hair is good quality and always styled with little to no gel, and the boxes are good for displays without having to be taken apart. They're steamlined, including a chipboard poem and death certificate, but there's no flaws in them and they aren't flashy. The dolls are paced enough apart to be able to get all of them if you're watching as well. They stay true to the stories they're based on, in the few lines based on stories, because there are no restrictions.

Monster High is bought one or two at a time, and people with 70+ are looked at highly in the fandom, though the average is 30-40 because of the age they're aimed at. Because they're aimed at children, they also have less problem squishing up hair or having a few minor flaws, but the minor flaws extent to several hundred dolls. The quality has been lowered as the dolls became more popular, excluding stands from the current multipacks and cheaper lines. Though they have used a new sculpt for many characters, the designs tend to be fairly simple on the skin, because more complicated designs make it easier to mess up. They have stories, but some of the stories have flaws and it's hard to tell which to take most seriously, and there tend to be typos or flaws in the journal (notably, Venus's journal lists Rochelle's BFFs instead of hers). The stories tend to be twisted slightly to suit children, not mentioning the Phantom of the Opera being a deranged serial killer or Dr. Frankenstein being a grave thief, for example.

Altogether, each doll is suited for it's audience and you have no right to insult LDDs because you are biased towards a line with an opposite audience.



Plantasia said:

Omg. Mezco is being a b...h hello! Monster high is way better than living dead dolls. Those dolls are creepy as hell and I bet idiots buy that doll. Oh wait, they r smart enough to not buy them. Those Mezco people are whack.

I see LDD's all the time when I go to Hot Topic or Spencers (was there just last night) it might just depend on the area you live in

They are not that ridiculously priced since the quality is quite amazing...I don't collect but I can just see the difference in quality between MH and LDD

Werecat Strut said:

I didn't even know LDD existed anymore. I couldn't tell you the last time I saw a physical one in a store like Hot Topic (didn't Spencer's go out of business?). Besides I think LDD are ridiculously priced and not geared towards the same market at all. A big reason I collect MH and not LDD or BeGoths is due to the price difference.

 

I actually might have to say that MH is easier to find than LDD are. Ridiculous I know, but MH is sold in a multitude of stores and I don't believe LDD are sold in many brick and mortar facilities. I could be wrong though.

Yeah.... everything I wanted to say has been said.

This lawsuit? Silly and either desperate or paranoid, depending on how you look at it.

However, this isn't a good reason to start insulting their products. (Which I personally don't like, but I can see what others might like about them.)

Lol, yep, I second that. Looks like everything that can be said has been. I agree that its childish to insult the product just because it doesn't suit your tastes and even more childish to insult the people who collect said product just because they dont have the same interests that you do.

P-girl said:

Yeah.... everything I wanted to say has been said.

This lawsuit? Silly and either desperate or paranoid, depending on how you look at it.

However, this isn't a good reason to start insulting their products. (Which I personally don't like, but I can see what others might like about them.)

Mezco please. U r just embarrassing ur self cuz mh has more popularity than ldd ever do. U just want to get them out if business for mh because u think once mh is gone people like monster dolls, and turn to ldd puh lease. As if. I won't be sry if Mezco loses!

Did everything I say just fly over your head?

Mezco knows even if MH didn't exist, people wouldn't turn to LDDs. LDDs are gruesome and bloody, with dolls like Deadbra Ann and The Great Zombini and Viv, or even Died and Boom. They wouldn't want the same audience as children who enjoy lots of colors and story-time type journals, especially since MH is aimed towards the general age of 8-12 and LDDs are aimed at 13+ (purely by their box). LDD in itself is ridiculously popular, but in a quieter way, but above all, it's worth noting that Mezco is a smart company. They wouldn't come into this expecting to win.

Plantasia said:

Mezco please. U r just embarrassing ur self cuz mh has more popularity than ldd ever do. U just want to get them out if business for mh because u think once mh is gone people like monster dolls, and turn to ldd puh lease. As if. I won't be sry if Mezco loses!

Wow. Those things are creepier than deformed Anakin from Star Wars episode 3.

Seriously Mezco, put some color into those dolls (and I do not mean the color red). At least MH has personality. Those things are just a new recipe for a penguin in a blender.
 
Beathag Ford said:

Did everything I say just fly over your head?

Mezco knows even if MH didn't exist, people wouldn't turn to LDDs. LDDs are gruesome and bloody, with dolls like Deadbra Ann and The Great Zombini and Viv, or even Died and Boom. They wouldn't want the same audience as children who enjoy lots of colors and story-time type journals, especially since MH is aimed towards the general age of 8-12 and LDDs are aimed at 13+ (purely by their box). LDD in itself is ridiculously popular, but in a quieter way, but above all, it's worth noting that Mezco is a smart company. They wouldn't come into this expecting to win.

Plantasia said:

Mezco please. U r just embarrassing ur self cuz mh has more popularity than ldd ever do. U just want to get them out if business for mh because u think once mh is gone people like monster dolls, and turn to ldd puh lease. As if. I won't be sry if Mezco loses!

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