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Is it just me or are the movies a lot more shallow than the webisodes and diaries? I mean we get some of the "I love shoes" stuff and "do stuff for me cause your my boyfriend" in the other 2 like Cleo and Deuces date night in their basic diaries and the webisodes have a lot of shoe complimenting, shopping and whatnot but its kind of ridiculous in the movies.

 

Its actually starting to bother me, quite a bit, the Scaris movie has to be the worst yet though. I know its just a kids show and they're supposed to be jokes but its just pushing the envelope a little too far for me and making the ghouls seem shallow and snobby. They bring a tower of suitcases that they make the guys carry, for a trip thats going to take a week and, this was what really got me, Cleo is so controlling with Deuce that she literally picks out his lunch for him everyday and when she leaves he cant even function after being told what to do day in and day out. Thats not funny to me, that's just sad.

 

Am I the only one who feels this way? :(

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I feel exactly the same.I`m afraid Monser High is getting a Barbiefication.First the clothing style then the characters, along with the crappily animated and thought out 3D movies..

I've felt annoyed from the beginning, I thought it was going to be more realistic.instead we got preppy girls in goth cloths. I mean apparently the whole point is to "be unique be yourself" but only if your super preppy and popular and always talk about boys and shoeeesssss. It's like really? I would have liked to seen more down to earth characters ,more variation, characters that would be more relatable. I do love the dolls, but hate their personalities.

I partially agree with you on this and I enjoy some of them, but over-all they seem very lacking compared to the diaries and webisodes to me. Its hard to place why, but they dont have the same charm and humor and a lot of time the things the characters say and do feel so out of place compared to the ghouls we see in the shorts and read about in the diaries.

Triumvirate said:

All the things you didn't like about the Scaris special were things I also didn't like, Abbinormal. Scaris was not what I expected and I was honestly disappointed with the story. I thought it could have been much better. I hated the way they portrayed Deuce. 

But I don't have the same general feeling you do about the movies. I do generally enjoy the movies, but some I like more than others definitely. There are moments that are heart-warming or creative and moments that are shallow and cliched in all of them. It's a little inconsistent, but when I find more good than bad I try to let go of the bad and just enjoy the show. And for the most part I feel that the sum of what they've done with the specials is more good than bad. 

I preffer the diaries to the webisodes, and agree with Scaris being less than what I was expecting. However, I don't see the whole "its only about clothes and shopping and shoes" bit everyone is proclaiming is overdone in them. If anything, certain characters are the ones that do this (Clawdeen, Draculaura and Cleo being the most prominent). The boys... yeah... Deuce is severely emasculated in the Scaris special, but its supposed to be funny, not a well thought critique on modern relationships that teenagers go on. These specials are aimed at children! These children know that the way Cleo is portrayed is bad, give them some credit too.

Since we're all adults, of course we note things like this more easily but come on. If anything, the whole "Cleo treating Deuce like crap" bit is inconsistent seeing as Ghouls Rule showed Cleo really needed him and that she made a wrong choice. Even if we look past that, isn't it in her nature (both in the webisodes and diaries) to be a good but spoiled girl?

As far as Barbiefication (great word to describe it, btw!) goes, I think it applies more to the recent dolls. There's a ****ton of pink, pink, PINK! 

Eh, its the same just about everywhere. Just think about it. How many kid shows out there make the parents in the show complete dumbasses and the kids the smart ones. Who knows, maybe duece is just that nice of a guy. I mean altho its exagerated on the show, i would def carry my girlfiends bags for her. Me do see your point though.

Original poster: Definitely yes. They are just SO over the top, it's ham-fisted and silly, and the characters become unlikable and annoying. Not to mention CGI looks so cruddy it's offensive to the eyeballs.

Oh I dont think its going to corrupt children or anything, it just bothers me personally. And reading about Cleo and seeing her in the webisodes, I dont think she would ever dump Deuce in the first place. :(

 

Draculad said:

I preffer the diaries to the webisodes, and agree with Scaris being less than what I was expecting. However, I don't see the whole "its only about clothes and shopping and shoes" bit everyone is proclaiming is overdone in them. If anything, certain characters are the ones that do this (Clawdeen, Draculaura and Cleo being the most prominent). The boys... yeah... Deuce is severely emasculated in the Scaris special, but its supposed to be funny, not a well thought critique on modern relationships that teenagers go on. These specials are aimed at children! These children know that the way Cleo is portrayed is bad, give them some credit too.

Since we're all adults, of course we note things like this more easily but come on. If anything, the whole "Cleo treating Deuce like crap" bit is inconsistent seeing as Ghouls Rule showed Cleo really needed him and that she made a wrong choice. Even if we look past that, isn't it in her nature (both in the webisodes and diaries) to be a good but spoiled girl?

As far as Barbiefication (great word to describe it, btw!) goes, I think it applies more to the recent dolls. There's a ****ton of pink, pink, PINK! 

Draculad and Triumvirate reminded me of another thing that bothers me about them as well.

 

There are a lot of things that the characters do that don't seem to fit with the characters I see from the wedisodes and diaries, for example, Cleo dumping Deuce in Ghouls Rule. From everything I had seen of Cleo before, she loves Deuce and would never break up with him and if she did it would have a HUGE impact on her and Deuce but in the movie they are both a little upset and thats it. In fact a lot of the movies just lack a lot of feeling in general. The characters dont seem to express any severe emotions, whether its anger, sadness, happiness or whatever else.

 

I miss scenes like Cleo crying by the pool when she thinks Deuce was cheating on her with Frankie or when Clawdeen is so angry with Draculara for dating Clawd that she makes her faint with a steak. I dont expect a lot from movies for a series of toys but its very strange to me that they can incorporate these emotions and write interesting storylines for webisodes (I'm speaking more about the story arch ones, not the quirky shorts) but not for a lengthy movie. I mean, they're not horrible and I do enjoy parts of them but as a whole they just dont fit well with the rest of the MH story I've read and watched.  

The most offensive thing for me in the cgi films is Lala's voice - she's so irritating in these. I prefer her voice in the webisodes. I watch the webisodes and films with my little girl, or sometimes with my husband. Sometimes we laugh, and sometimes I think "What just happened?!"

The thing that bothers me most about the movies is the message between Cleo and Deuce. We get that Deuce loves Cleo, but that he can't function with out her is ridiculous. And why send the message that it's okay to have a relationship like that? Where one person is so dominant that the other can not cope with out them.

When Cleo dumped Deuce in Ghouls Rule, I cheered and hoped they would not get back together. It's the only movie where Deuce acted like a man rather than a love sick puppy.

I agree with this and in the webisodes and diaries, while Cleo is bossy and a bit controlling, it never goes as far as it does in the movies. In the movies it becomes almost abusive, I mean, if you switched their roles and had a guy telling a girl what to wear, eat ect. because hes that controlling, people would be outraged. I dont understand why the reversal is supposed to be more acceptable. Like I said, I understand its supposed to be a joke but its really not funny.

Kaliskanny said:

The thing that bothers me most about the movies is the message between Cleo and Deuce. We get that Deuce loves Cleo, but that he can't function with out her is ridiculous. And why send the message that it's okay to have a relationship like that? Where one person is so dominant that the other can not cope with out them.

When Cleo dumped Deuce in Ghouls Rule, I cheered and hoped they would not get back together. It's the only movie where Deuce acted like a man rather than a love sick puppy.

I agree, I disliked Deuce in the Scaris special too. I think they were just trying to make an excuse for him wanting Cleo back (he couldn't say that he was jealous she was in the world's most romantic city, that was Clawd's gig) so they took Cleo's bossiness to the extreme, with no good outcome. 

In the diaries, we see that Cleo is still bossy, but Deuce is annoyed by that, like when they were having dinner and she sent her plate back 30 times. Their relationship is much healthier in the diaries.

I hope that Mattel has read this and will try to never make Deuce like that again. He is my favourite MH boy, I don't want to see him like that.

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