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So everyone complains and whines about scalpers. How horrible it is that they buy a whole case of dolls and sell them for double or triple the price. But has anyone ever stopped to think whose fault it really is?

It's the people who buy from the scalpers. Do you really think people would buy hoards of dolls and resell them if no one bought them for such high prices?

People say that to battle scalping stores should do things like place a doll-per-customer limit. But all that does is make it difficult for collectors to get dolls if they find more than one or two dolls they've been searching for weeks for.

You know what would truly stop scalpers? If people like you and me didn't buy from them.

So what can you do to help stop scalping?

• Be patient. Just because you've just seen the promo for new doll doesn't mean you need it rightomgnow. In fact, you don't even need it for the first few weeks it's out. Almost every doll becomes readily available by simply waiting. Even if that means waiting a month or two.

• If you don't have access to stores, buy from someone personally or from amazon. Avoid ebay and other sites that only have dolls for exuberant prices.

• Talk to your friends. Encourage them to not buy dolls for triple their value, and instead try to team up and help each other obtain the dolls you want.

So stop and think. Who is truly at fault? The people who are taking advantage of opportunities given to them, or the people who enable the selling of dolls at ridiculously heightened prices by actually buying them at this price?

Feel free to share your thoughts and opinions.

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THIS! I want to feature this discussion. Should I? Normally featured discussions are news or rules but this is something that NEEDS to be put through people's heads.

Edit:

I say only buy from scalpers if you live in a country where MH isn't sold, that's probably to most legitimate reason to buy from them. :|

Usually my thoughts exactly; Venus and Robecca are still expensive on ebay but eventually they will trickle into the stores for retail price.

ThatOneKid aka Emily said:

Everybody always says about how scalpers "force" them to buy a doll for 80 bucks, it's like, no they didn't dingus! You bought it out of your own free will.

I would be honored. ♡

♫☮Sadie of Nimbasa City☮♫ said:

THIS! I want to feature this discussion. Should I? Normally featured discussions are news or rules but this is something that NEEDS to be put through people's heads.

Edit:

I say only buy from scalpers if you live in a country where MH isn't sold, that's probably to most legitimate reason to buy from them. :|

YES! More people need to see this.


♫☮Sadie of Nimbasa City☮♫ said:

THIS! I want to feature this discussion. Should I? Normally featured discussions are news or rules but this is something that NEEDS to be put through people's heads.

Edit:

I say only buy from scalpers if you live in a country where MH isn't sold, that's probably to most legitimate reason to buy from them. :|

This! If it comes to the point where they are extremely limited I can understand that; until then we should look away from those unfairly high prices. As long as people buy from them and make them extremely profitable they'll keep listing them.

ThatOneKid aka Emily said:

Like, I can understand if the dolls isn't being made anymore, or you live in a country that doesn't have the dolls, but onther than that, come on.
 
Meromaro said:

Usually my thoughts exactly; Venus and Robecca are still expensive on ebay but eventually they will trickle into the stores for retail price.

ThatOneKid aka Emily said:

Everybody always says about how scalpers "force" them to buy a doll for 80 bucks, it's like, no they didn't dingus! You bought it out of your own free will.

I agree with all of this - the only way to stop scalpers is to stop buying from them. That being said, I think I know why some people do it. It's not simply a matter of waiting. It's true that eventually the dolls start showing up in greater quantities after a few weeks or few months. But even then, the scalpers continue to snatch them, especially the boys who are often one per case. If you are a working Mom or a busy student and don't have time to run all round the city trying to catch the new toys for the few hours they are in stock - well, eventually you are going to evaluate the amount of time, energy and gas you are expending to find the dolls and you might very well conclude that buying them off ebay is worth the time and frustration you will save. I don't buy from scalpers, but I have been sorely tempted, and I can't fault those who give up and do.

I think the REAL problem is the way these dolls are distributed - one or two cases per store at a time. Each case is often only enough for one collector (the Dot Dead Gorgeous cases, for instance, had four dolls total. One of each plus one extra Spectra.) So every store that gets in one or two cases at a time (and believe me, this is how Toys R Us and Target does it), is making just one or two collectors happy at a time (and making it easy for the scalpers to clear the shelves). WHY, when the dolls are new and hot, can they not stock multiple cases and really fill the shelves??? At least initially? I mean if the shelves were continually full, then the scalpers would not find much advantage to reselling them. I propose that stores, when they get new lines in, order at least 5-10 cases at at time. They can put a couple out and stick the rest in the back if they don't have shelf space. Does anyone not believe they will sell quickly enough to keep the back room from filling up?

Cindy

Yes, be patient. It may take a few months (It took me quite some time to find Ghoulia when she first appeared in stores) but you WILL find that doll for retail. waiting is frustrating yes, but it won't kill you.
And finding that doll will be all the sweeter, provided you don't torment yourself looking at endless photos of the doll online hahaha. I'm so guilty of this, so... so guilty. But i'm also very cheap so I refuse to pay more than about £2 above retail.

You shouldn't have to pay above retail if you can just relax and be patient.

But maybe we foreign markets are more used to waiting... and waiting.. and waiting lol.

DDG Spectra... I shall have you... eventually. Gah.

You can easily save time and money by calling ahead. That is what I do, since sometimes I can't spend the whole day running around. If you call as soon as the store opens, then you can have them put the doll on hold and then pick it up when you have the time later in the day.

malinablue said:

I agree with all of this - the only way to stop scalpers is to stop buying from them. That being said, I think I know why some people do it. It's not simply a matter of waiting. It's true that eventually the dolls start showing up in greater quantities after a few weeks or few months. But even then, the scalpers continue to snatch them, especially the boys who are often one per case. If you are a working Mom or a busy student and don't have time to run all round the city trying to catch the new toys for the few hours they are in stock - well, eventually you are going to evaluate the amount of time, energy and gas you are expending to find the dolls and you might very well conclude that buying them off ebay is worth the time and frustration you will save. I don't buy from scalpers, but I have been sorely tempted, and I can't fault those who give up and do.

I dont have a problem with scalpers...

My problem is the ones that come on here and brag about how much they make and how many they have....

That's true, but even calling every day gets frustrating at times. And then you have some stores, like our local TRU, that decide the way to solve the problem is to not do holds anymore. I called our TRU at opening a week ago and they had finally gotten in the TRU Frankie and Abbey. I asked the guy to hold one of each and he refused. Told me the new store policy on Monster High (and on Skylanders) was not to hold them for anyone. It wasn't fair to other buyers, he said. I BEGGED him, as I was a good 25 minutes from the store and was sure they would be gone by the time I got there, and he refused. I asked to speak to the manager. Turns out he WAS the manager. This is their new policy. To me, it is a scalper-friendly policy, as they are often the ones out there at opening and they don't need holds. I drove out there VERY stressed, sure they would be gone, and I was lucky. I did get one. But it shocked the heck out of me. It is not typical for anything new to sit on shelves for more than a few minutes around here. And if I was not a work-at-home Mom, I would not have found them on my lunchbreak or anything. I know from a friend they were gone shortly after I got my one each.

Caitlin said:

You can easily save time and money by calling ahead. That is what I do, since sometimes I can't spend the whole day running around. If you call as soon as the store opens, then you can have them put the doll on hold and then pick it up when you have the time later in the day.

malinablue said:

I agree with all of this - the only way to stop scalpers is to stop buying from them. That being said, I think I know why some people do it. It's not simply a matter of waiting. It's true that eventually the dolls start showing up in greater quantities after a few weeks or few months. But even then, the scalpers continue to snatch them, especially the boys who are often one per case. If you are a working Mom or a busy student and don't have time to run all round the city trying to catch the new toys for the few hours they are in stock - well, eventually you are going to evaluate the amount of time, energy and gas you are expending to find the dolls and you might very well conclude that buying them off ebay is worth the time and frustration you will save. I don't buy from scalpers, but I have been sorely tempted, and I can't fault those who give up and do.

Sometimes calling ahead doesn't work, and [at times] you'd be better off checking yourself. When the Howleen sets came out the first time, I called a Target nearby me about them and the woman on the phone said they didn't have any, even though the site said the store had them in stock. Ended up going to the store a few minutes later, and saw four sets on the shelf. Dx

Plus, some stores won't hold dolls for you, even if you call them right when the store opens. The TRU I usually go to will hold dolls or other toys if you ask them to, but someone I talked to said their TRU won't hold something for them if it's a popular item.

I personally do tend to call before hand, but I usually would rather go check myself since I've had a history of store employees lying about things being on the shelf or not. Dx


Caitlin said:

You can easily save time and money by calling ahead. That is what I do, since sometimes I can't spend the whole day running around. If you call as soon as the store opens, then you can have them put the doll on hold and then pick it up when you have the time later in the day.

malinablue said:

I agree with all of this - the only way to stop scalpers is to stop buying from them. That being said, I think I know why some people do it. It's not simply a matter of waiting. It's true that eventually the dolls start showing up in greater quantities after a few weeks or few months. But even then, the scalpers continue to snatch them, especially the boys who are often one per case. If you are a working Mom or a busy student and don't have time to run all round the city trying to catch the new toys for the few hours they are in stock - well, eventually you are going to evaluate the amount of time, energy and gas you are expending to find the dolls and you might very well conclude that buying them off ebay is worth the time and frustration you will save. I don't buy from scalpers, but I have been sorely tempted, and I can't fault those who give up and do.

The I <3 Fashion line is incredibly new, only about two weeks old. It is only natural that they will be gone off the shelves by opening. Which is where my advice in being patient comes in.

malinablue said:

That's true, but even calling every day gets frustrating at times. And then you have some stores, like our local TRU, that decide the way to solve the problem is to not do holds anymore. I called our TRU at opening a week ago and they had finally gotten in the TRU Frankie and Abbey. I asked the guy to hold one of each and he refused. Told me the new store policy on Monster High (and on Skylanders) was not to hold them for anyone. It wasn't fair to other buyers, he said. I BEGGED him, as I was a good 25 minutes from the store and was sure they would be gone by the time I got there, and he refused. I asked to speak to the manager. Turns out he WAS the manager. This is their new policy. To me, it is a scalper-friendly policy, as they are often the ones out there at opening and they don't need holds. I drove out there VERY stressed, sure they would be gone, and I was lucky. I did get one. But it shocked the heck out of me. It is not typical for anything new to sit on shelves for more than a few minutes around here. And if I was not a work-at-home Mom, I would not have found them on my lunchbreak or anything. I know from a friend they were gone shortly after I got my one each.

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